Comments on: Robert Kaplan: Think “Tragically” About War and Politics https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/ National Security, Politics, Tech and More. Tue, 09 May 2023 17:26:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2 By: David Chang https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-78023 Tue, 09 May 2023 17:26:20 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-78023 God bless people in the world.

Thanks Doctor for the morality question of how we should explain the Vietnam War and the Iraq War is right or wrong. This question is the same as the right and wrong of the crusaders, chivalry and the rules of warfare, as the sin of hero worship, Iliad, Odyssey, Zeus and Hera.

Because of sin, people who call themselves anti-racism, anti-imperialism, or anti-fascism are propagating the worship of democracy and science which is the same as Nazi and Communist Party, so they do not obey Ten Commandments, nor do they believe that God created the universe and people.

They make the League of Nations and the United Nations, and help Communist Party to convince Asia people of atheism, and help to establish the Communist Party of various countries, and to be the Socialism International or the Workers’ International. The Iran-Iraq War is a war of competing for socialism representation between two Islamic socialism countries, and the Jordan River War is a socialism war between these two socialism countries, Israel and Palestine. However, these socialism wars are instigated by Democratic Party and Communist Party, but the Republican Party also do not obey Ten Commandments, thus helping Democrats and Communists to expand socialism warfare, accumulate hatred, and cause more wars.

So they led to Bush and Cheney’s atheism defense policy and preventive war. Although there is a difference between preventive diplomacy and preventive war. The former makes financial policy to be an alternative for war, while the latter makes war to be an alternative for financial policy. However, both policies are determined by psychology and sociology. These are atheism, so it is impossible to stop war, but cause more hatred, which the Communist Party says is a humanitarian crisis. But humanism is to worship people.

Therefore, the Iraq war is one of socialism warfare. However, if people in Iraq obey Ten Commandments and swear to God that they would never believe socialism and evolution, and oppose the worship of democracy and science, then the Iraq people would establish a good and peaceful country by themselves.

God bless America.

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By: David Chang https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-78000 Tue, 09 May 2023 14:01:57 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-78000 God bless people in the world.

pagar:

The book of Revelation is not truth, the author of Revelation does not confess his sin and repent to God, so the Revelation is the same as the Gnostics School.

This is also the reason for many debates after Vietnam socialism warfare. People who oppose Democratic Party and Mr. Kerry should comment on the war behavior of Democratic Party and Mr. Kerry by Ten Commandments, and first accuse Democratic Party of cooperating with Communist Party to occupy Asia and making a socialism alliance. Then talk about the moral responsibility of the Democratic Party provoking the Communist Party and causing the Vietnam socialism warfare.

Also because the Democratic-Republican party do not obey Ten Commandments, they do not talk about socialism warfare when they talk about strategy competition or competition strategy or competitive strategy or strategic competition. Only talking about competition, only promoting atheism, so they are promoting socialism and evolution.

But Mr. Lincoln remind us to obey Ten Commandments, because the judgements of God are always true and righteous alltogether.

God bless America.

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By: David Chang https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77994 Tue, 09 May 2023 11:08:03 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77994 Because of sin, realism or liberalism or whatever the academy noun that scholars say is unknown. The foresight, vision, gaze, or sight is not real.

Because of sin, even if foresight is true, even if foresight is said to be prophecy or prophet in Bible, murder and robbery from ancient times to the present are never changed, although atomic energy, hypersonic or directed energy weapons look like science fiction or magic.

Most China people, including people in Taiwan Province, do not believe a nuclear war in the future, they always mock and say: I bet it is not. 

So Admiral Charles A. Richard talk to people about the major risks in the future, which are prohibited by Democratic Parties in East Asia. People in East Asia don’t discuss the warning of the US Strategic Command on newspapers and television.

God bless America.

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By: pagar https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77956 Tue, 09 May 2023 01:08:00 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77956 There was once a famous person who allegedly said that if fate is stronger than your will then that’s destiny.

But today many leaders who purportedly have massive mountains of wisdom in their tiny withered brains think or believe they are the god on earth. The hell with destiny.

Heck, they can’t even solve the galloping issues happening right at home yet profess to have god-like answers to problems far off abroad.

Revelation chapter 18.
The whole world is worshipping the apostate.
All the nations are caught up in the craze of his amazing authority.
He has wiped out the religious and put forward his own.
He has the world worship him as God.

But a strong warning comes for that leader of the land of babylon – the babylon of the future will become a haven for demons and scavenger birds during the appointed time of its desolation.

Now, does that leader who professes to have great wisdom in his withered head understand that message.

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By: Jim https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77938 Mon, 08 May 2023 22:39:41 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77938 Another concept in the school of Realism thought is expressed by the word ‘Restraint.’

It’s not used in the article, but the related idea is certainly there in the phrase, “anxious foresight.”

Tell me the last time Neoconservatives used or respected ‘restraint’ in any of their policy prescriptions?

Crickets…

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By: Ceiphied https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77928 Mon, 08 May 2023 22:00:06 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77928 “Would that Vladimir Putin had taken an anxious, fatalistic attitude before marching Russia into its military misadventure in Ukraine last year. The world would be a better place. ”

Sadly not ! Ukraine’s leader said he wanted to retake the Donbass (and Crimea) by force. (which is why the Minsk Accord were so important, to create a great Ukrainian army in several years to finally be powerful enough, with Nato weapons&ammo&logistic support&intelligence, to challenge Russia

-Donbass is one thing but Crimea is seen as protected by nuclear weapons in Russia so any successful attack… we know how it work, that’s nuclear dissuassion)

So the war would happen no matter what. Even if Russia didn’t foolishly declare it and instead declare it would end the bloodshed in the Donbass -and making the Donbass’s “republics” whole-, the moment Crimea was attacked or the Donbass was (or about to be) lost, Russia would have no choice but to intervene.

Maybe then, Russia’s attritional war would then work better with a shorter frontline. (by not sacrifying soldiers with the stupid attack from Belarus -stupid because it didn’t work, because there were saboteurs harming logistic, because Putin didn’t thought Ukraine’s army was training since 2014 with Nato’s help while Russian’s army didn’t -since Russia’s intervention in Syria gave intelligence about what to expect)

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By: David Chang https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77908 Mon, 08 May 2023 20:34:10 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77908 P.s.:

God bless people in the world.

“Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.”

When I saw the Afghan president Ashraf Ghani worshipping God in the annual Eid al-Adha, I think the president does not obey ten commandments, he forget the law and order of God, so the other socialism party occupy Afghan.

God bless America.

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By: David Chang https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77901 Mon, 08 May 2023 19:58:45 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77901 God bless people in the world.

Thanks Dr. for the morality question.

We study justice by Ten constitutions that God gave to Moses, but Professor Kaplan’s thought violates Ten Commandments. The civilization he talks about is not justice, but is worshiping reason and is for desire, so it means that people are under democracy, and people are under people.

Greek philosophy opposes justice, and Greek people think themselves as good, which is the cause of Greek tragic thought, such as Sisyphus, which is also the cause of Roman people worshiping presidents or kings as gods, such as Deo Invicto. The late wrong thought as the same of Greek people is Gnostic School.

Although Sun Tzu’s political opponent has immoral actions on Sun Tzu, making Sun Tzu to be disabled for life, some of Sun Tzu’s military thoughts are also immoral. He encourages soldiers to rob foreign people, and encourages kings to use his people.

The more immoral people is Machiavelli, he teaches king to use his people and murder foreign people for king’s benefit, and teaches king to murder parents, brothers, sisters and children for the throne, because he does not trust God, and he thinks himself as wise people of the country, then teaches king to worship the country. So his wisdom, like the wisdom of people in Greece and Rome, is sin. Moreover, most political scholars in the world don’t obey Ten Commandments and teach students to be Machiavelli.

Because God created the universe and people, and granted us life and property, the U.S. military should obey moral law and achieve justice, so that soldiers will understand the reasons for the failure of the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, and the Afghan War is worshiping democracy. So people will not join the antiwar political party after failure. For example, Bertrand Russell encouraged the murder of Russia People before World War II. and cooperated with Communist Party to judge the military behaviors of the U.S..

There are also military thoughts in Old Testament, not to rob or usurp the property of foreign peoples. “Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.”

So Augustine promotes just war theory to show that Greek and Roman philosophy are the cause of the ruin of Rome. Because of the same reason, it is impossible for Sun Tzu’s to protect the country, even if he defeats enemies with his military thoughts, his strategy is to encourage the king to keep fighting, which will only lead to the ruin of the country. Machiavelli’s thought is the same as Charles Darwin and Karl Marx, they only believe the survival of the fittest.

Finally, we shall know the law and order is of God, but not of democracy.

Gravity and Ten Commandments are laws and order dictated by God. Therefore, Captain Mahan’s sea power theory is not a theory for the CCP to occupy the South China Sea. The CCP’s theory of occupying the South China Sea is related to UNCLOS article 92. They think that ship is an artificial island, so they occupy the South China Sea with artificial islands by UNCLOS article 92.

But, the law and order of God is the cause of peace, and is the reason for politics, and is the theory of government.

God bless America.

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By: Commentar https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77900 Mon, 08 May 2023 19:51:07 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77900 Biden, who recently told the media in a very confidential manner, that he’s got one big hell of wisdom.

That was exactly what LBJ did in 1964, and also what Clinton did in 1964, and exactly what Obama performed in 2009.

Confidentially full of wisdom. Indeed.

Instead of pursuing peace and progress, all the actors singlemindedly pursued America’s expansion of influence and power.

The result was chaos and turmoil in the lands directly affected by their wisdom plus secondary long lasting effects on the rest of the world.

Of all of them, Biden is definitely the worst. He’s now peddling the newest religion which is full of wisdom.

The religion of globalist apostate woke imperialism that all nations must now accept or else.

Thus the danger of ww3 suddenly erupting upon humanity has never been greater like today.

It’s crystal clear globalism + wokeism + imperialism = ww3.

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By: Duane https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77899 Mon, 08 May 2023 19:34:18 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77899 Regarding Iraq, we had other options that we could have pursued, and should most definitely have pursued, other than invading and taking out Saddam Hussein. No matter how desperately bad he and his regime were, war is worse.

How many so-called “marsh Arabs”, about whose plight we heard so much of in the late 1990s and early 00s, were actually killed under Saddam’s misrule?

Nobody seems to have an exact number, but it is known that the total population of marsh Arabs in 1991 was only about 500 thousand, of whom Saddam “killed thousands”.

So how many Iraqis, regardless of whose side they were on, died during the Iraq War from 2003 to 2011 when hostilities briefly ended, just before ISIS supplanted Al Queda as terror masters in Iraq? Again, nobody really knows, but estimates of both military and mostly civilian deaths due to the invasion and the following insurgency range up to 1.1 million killed, and millions more maimed.

Did we really cause the deaths of 1.1 million in order to save a few thousand marsh Arabs? Does anyone actually think of or pay any attention to marsh Arabs today?

The thing is with war, all wars, is that they are uncontrollable, and contrary to the hubristic thinking of both civilian and military leaders, war cannot be carefully calibrated. It is the bluntest of all tools wielded by human beings. Like using a mallet to conduct brain surgery.

Nobody would have launched the war in Iraq justified by saving a few thousand now totally forgotten marsh Arabs by killing more than a million other Iraqis, none of whom asked to be made to suffer such an onslaught.

Ditto with most other wars – they quickly get out of hand or turn into long bloody slogs where nobody seems to be winning – see, “Ukraine War – 2022-202?.

Wars are sometimes necessary, but usually can be avoided, even the so-called “good wars” like WW Two. We didn’t make the Japanese attack us or the Germans attack Europe, but we clearly got in their faces, led by a President who was itching to get the US into the middle of it, and did numerous provocative acts like blockading Japanese sources of oil and metals, and by aggressively attacking German U-boats that were attacking British convoys. We weren’t innocents as our leaders of the time pretended. We could have done differently, and not going to war wouldn’t have ended evil, but we could have avoided losing 400+ thousand dead Americans and turned our civilian economy into a war economy. And assisted in the deaths of 60 million others in Europe and Asia using American supplied weapons.

But we never seem to learn. I am no pacifist, but war should always be a last resort.

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By: Jim https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/robert-kaplan-think-tragically-about-war-and-politics/#comment-77879 Mon, 08 May 2023 17:32:53 +0000 https://www.19fortyfive.com/?p=105403#comment-77879 There’s another book of fiction, a novella, titled Of Mice and Men, by John Steinbeck, 1937, which suggests, “The best laid plans of mice and men / Often go awry.”

It would seem in the last 20 odd years the foreign policy establishment has forgotten the lessons which Mr. Kaplan and Mr. Steinbeck flesh out, one via historical analysis and the other by way of fiction.

The author of the present article doesn’t call out what leaped off the page for me; Mr. Kaplan is describing what I and many others call Realism.

The international diplomacy & geopolitical school of Realism possibly best embodied (or known via of) by John Mearsheimer @ the University of Chicago.

Realism takes into account the possibility of failure and to guard against it by using foresight into various scenarios or outcomes from a given policy… the cautionary principle is also recognized by the school of Realism… as it is also by Kaplan.

On the other hand, there is Neoconservatism where plunging into a war situation is done with little thought or insight into what might happen as a result of the “regime change” operation, either because the effort (whether war, “color revolution,” or coup) has potential to damage United States foreign relations or the aftermath ends up hurting U. S. national interests (see Iraq & Afghanistan… and Syria).

Neoconservative geopolitical thinking has been shown to fail, time after time.

It’s time to replace it with something… more realistic… which doesn’t damage the United States’ international relations and geopolitical standing.

I’m sick of neocon fantasies… not working out.

In the Multi-polar world (the “Uni-polar” moment has past) Realism is a much better approach than the arrogance, hubris, and failure of Neoconservatism.

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